I have recently bought a iBlue 747A and found the supplied software incomprehensible. Someone pointed me to BT747 and I now seem to be getting somewhere, one tiny step at a time. Using BT747 I can now see my location on the Open Streetmap which is a start. I would like to be able to be able to do the same with Google earth but the GE GPS setup only seems to support Garmin or Magellan and I am unable to get any response whichever of those settings I choose. GE scans through all COM port addresses but seems to find nothing.
As a beginner, I am daunted by the huge number of options available in BT747 but at least I can see starting position
in Open Streetmap so the default settings can't be far wrong.
Is it possible to somehow add Google Earth or any other Marine navigation programmes to the "Map" pulldown on BT747? If not, how do I re-direct BT747 to GE or other charting applications?
Does BT747 work on Qubuntu Linux?
Is there available a user guide to BT747 which a newcomer to GPS function can understand? In particular the meanings of the dozens of 3 letter acronyms in the options.
BT747 looks to be an exciting as well as useful application and I am eager to try and get the best out of it.
Sorry if my questions may seem pretty basic but I really am a GPS virgin and any help would be much apprecioated.
GE can do real time
I hope this helps.
Yes, thank you, that is a
Yes, thank you, that is a great help, I will be trying it out this afternoon. Thanks also for going some way to answer my TLA question, I have the same problem with French bureaucracy which seems to run in acronyms.
I am still a bit confused about "exporting" to different formats, I can see the convert to,,,,, and a list of options but where is the "export to" function?
Once I have it operating so I can understand it, I will try to run from Linux on my laptop as I would like to use it for marine navigation with charting software.
regards
Hi 'Export to' or 'Convert
Hi
'Export to' or 'Convert to' is the same thing for me in this context.
In the BT747 interface there are some buttons doing the same thing as 'Convert to' the format selected on the right of it. The buttons are for 'quick access' to common output formats.
I am not French but I live near Paris for over 10 years already - if you have an issue regarding French/English translation, just put the french word in parentheses). I've translated the interface to French so if you have suggestions for improving some translations, let me know: I am not a native speaker.
What charting SW will you use for the marine navigation?
Hi, I am English and have
Hi,
I am English and have lived here for 10 years and once I get my head around this GPS thing I am interested in geocaching. I will be buying a sailing cruiser next year with the intention of moving to the Southern Mediterranean and spending lots of time sailing around the Greek archipelago. I hope to be using Maxsea and, as a backup OpenCPN. I have so far today tried to get both of them to indicate where in the French landmass I am but no luck as yet. I have the same problem with them as with Google Earth.
BT747 shows the correct Lat/Long and the correct location shows on OpenStreetmap on BT747 app but I get no reaction from GE, Maxsea or OpenCPN, I have tried changing a variety of parameters, Baude rate, COM port, output/input (KMZ,NMEA, GPZ etc) as well as using "convert from one to the other but still nothing The box that my datalogger/receiver came in shows it working with, among other things GE as well as photo tagging software.
Your help so far has at least enabled me to get a position logged on BT747 which is a start.
I'm a bit stuck what to try next!
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Hi We're both foreigners in
Hi
We're both foreigners in the same country then ;-).
I am from the country just to the north from the part where the native language isn't french.
To convert something usefull in BT747, you need to get a log from your logger first. That is where 'Download' comes in the picture. It will get the data from the logger and put it in a file identified by "Raw Log File". That file is not readable by the tools you mention so that is why you need to 'convert it' to another format. Usually you click on one of the buttons and that will create the files in the "Output Folder".
If you click on 'GUI', you'll just get the log on the integrated openstreetmap (it will show where you have been, not only where you are now). What you see there is what you should see in the other applications too. GE has what I call a quirck (they probably call it a feature) with the timeline that is zero size automatically. See the BT747 FAQ for that. However, do try to create a HTML file, go to the output folder and click on it (to open it in the browser).
If you create a GPX, KML or KMZ you can drag and drop it to GE (which is to me the easiest way to open these files in GE) and see the track there.
I am not sure what your issue in GE is regarding the live position. If BT747 can open the port at a given speed, and see the position, other applications should be able to do the same - under condition of course that BT747 no longer has the port open.
Hello, Thank you for spending
Hello,
Thank you for spending your time in providing me with a better understanding of hof the GPS/Real life interface works.
Now that really is useful, part of the problem may be that I had B&747 running when I tried to patch into GE . I will digest your information and try again tomorrow morning when I cam concentrate a bit more.
I understand that using the "logging" function a track of movement whilst logging will be producesd and saved to the RAW Log file (What is RAW?) and that this is the file which I will need to convert to KMX for GE. HYML for G Maps and NMEA for charting programmes, is that right?
Either your english is excellent or you use a very good translation. We have quite a few ex-patriates here mainly english and Dutch. How ling have you been here?
regards
Brian
www.leschenauds.com
Hi I call it a 'raw' log file
Hi
I call it a 'raw' log file because it is the way the data is stored in the logger and it has not been transformed. Like in: 'Can you provide me the raw data please?' when looking at statistics or so.
The iBlue 747 A+ will store positions to its internal memory, not to a file. When downloading, this data is fetched from that memory and stored to a file on your computer. That is then what I call the 'raw log file'. It has information about when the configuration changed, when the devices was switched on and off, positions, etc. That is too much information for most programs and they would not understand it. So this is what is indeed converted to all these other formats.
I am not using any translation tool for English ;-). The movies on television were in the original language (so often in English) and I've been reading technical documentation in English since 25 years, so there is some practice. I still remember reading my first English book which was about assembly language programming on the Sinclair QL without (or barely) any formal training in English and the dictionary next to me while reading. When programming in Assembly there is no forgiveness or safety net for mistakes at all. Some of these mistakes were related to some sentences giving three constraints rather than just one which required understanding some finesses of the English language. So I learned both the MC68000 Assembly Language and the English Language at the same time ;-).
I've been here in France for 11.5 years.
Still, I am open to any suggestions of improving on the English wording in the application.
God morning, I must say that
God morning, I must say that your command of the complex english language is exceptionally good. Just for starters today, I had a look at the RAW log file (polar.txt) and the following is a small extract of the content of the file:).
// EDIT : Binary file snipped.
Now this is noted as a .txt file but the .txt extension is mentioned nowhere in the BT747 setup. There is a "convert" section with buttons labelled GPX,CSV,KML,KMZ HTML and NMEA, I believe KML and KMZ relate to GE, NMEA relates to charting information but unsure what would need HTML or Comma Seperated Value.
I would normally expect the push button to be "convert from" or are they "convert to". The confusing bit as the "convert to" button which has a dropdown table for all the above items.
And finally, how do I select a file for the conversion?
Normally I would expect to select a file for processing after selecting "convert from" and then select "convert to" but BT747 doesn't seem to work that way.
You jogged a few memories mentioning the much underrated QL, I started with a Dragon 32, to Spectrum to QL with the fiddly microdrives then a quantum leap to Amstrad 640 with huge RAM, 64K wasn't it?
I had 2 QLS networked together (Wow) and as a hobby in spare time bought dead computers, rebuilt them and then sold them.
One chap, Steve Jury who was working as a plumber after leaving the navy, came and had a look at a PC640 and printer which I had fixed and after trying it for a bit he said he thought it was going to be too complicated and he really only needed a typewriter. I persuaded him to take it and try it for a week or 2 and either return it or of he wished, pay me for it. The punchline is that he now lectures on artificial intelligence at Sheffield University
The only programming I have ever done was in the BASIC language, mostly forgotten now but still play around with the unix based Linux command line.
BT747 works according to
BT747 works according to file extensions for part of it and your file should have a '.bin' extension. Your feedback is interesting because this should be made clearer and I probably need to add the '.bin' extension when somebody clicks download for instance to avoid the issue alltogether.
When you do 'Convert to', the same filename will be used as the entry to the conversion (you can have more than one file if you add them on the 'Files to tag' tab or drag and drop them to BT747 - but for now, you just have one file ;-) ). I snipped out the 'binary text' which you should be able to add as an attachment if you wish.
HTML is for humans ;-). You just need an appropriate browser to use it and it is much faster than GE. You can embed the HTML file in another HTML page through a 'frame', so that makes it easy to integrate in a web page (you need a GMAP key though). You can also send it by mail: it is self-contained.
The CSV is for excel if you want to do further analysis and it can hold more extractable information than the other formats.
It sure recalls some good memories. The QL was extremely underrated. Prior to that, I had my first close encounter with computers throught he ZX81. Then we moved ZX Spectrum, followed by the QL. I've modded and remodded several QLs - we ended up having several at home. I've even emulated a PC on it ("DOS") and did my programming tasks in Turbo Pascal on it. I still have a QL sitting in a nice wooden casing here - floppies and all with it. That casing actually makes it a portable computer (my father and I took it to the computer club like that). And basic on the QL was 'SuperBASIC' - one could do procedural programming avoiding all the "go to" stuff. So a great learning experience. The QL resisted a long time - I still used it in 92 I think - and after that we moved to a second hand 286 machine with the QL not being to far away for games and other stuff.
Hooray! One problem
Hooray!
One problem sorted.I can now get both GE and OpenCPN (charting app) to show me where I am in the middle of France. It all came down eventually by changing baude Rate to 4800 instead of 9600 or 11500. One small step for a man! I am now about to try it on Maxsea.
regards
Brian
Pretty strange, but if it
Pretty strange, but if it works...
11500 is not a good baud rate of course, 115200 is.
Sorry for the typo 11520 it
Sorry for the typo 11520 it is.
Haven't progressed any further, drove into town this morning logging the trip. On return started BT747, connected( only 2 options of baude rate including 115200 but no mention of 9600 or 4800. Selected.KMZ and clicked download which produced a file- polar.txt which looked suspiciously like the stuff I emailed earlier. Opened GE and it scrolled through COM ports from 1 to 20odd (the receiver is on COM6) and zilch.
On Bt747 clicked convert to NMEA with the same result but in any case the file looked the same as the original.
Tried, as suggested concerting to HTML, copied the file but as there is no "Paste" facility on GE still ogt nowhere.
I appreciate that it must be like dealing with a mentally deficient child but any furter suggestions would be appreciated
regards
Hi I've been on vacation, so
Hi
I've been on vacation, so I been quiet on the forums this past week ;-).
I think the core issue is the file name. Do not call it 'polar.txt', but call it 'polar.bin'. The extension is important.
Regarding the baud rate - in reality you can enter any baud rate by hand, but only two are proposed in the pull down list.
A good connection means that the 'Connect' button will change to 'Disconnect'. Further the 'GPS Info' sub panel should show some actual information (like flash id, current position, ...).
Hopefully the '.bin' extension helps you further.
Mario